606 0 obj <> endobj 1) Annual. I have a Soldier that arrived at the unit and the BN will not let the Soldier take PTDY for house hunting but they allow everyone else to do it. h[k07Jm($[%k>hHl?cKRCH:#QRFLiyvMr97K[ztjv7\/5d0HAgU'HmD00ZgfOsq(@Zz{9hR~7U5Wn9.%.5],B8ai,Z.+q}O78wp)nl(>BmQaK3V8^JWN12T~:%0u`{ {[nq",G]0]D '= ;IPjHmR{?. `cOTI6-TR{$ CI%H `0pAc:>;Iriz(`: F{b 3vu@ ` { Watch SGT Josh Maria as he explains more about the PSD: . Reason Code. leave, lack of rater qualification, TDY, permissive TDY, and in transit travel). Reason is that board members question if rating officials were actually rating officials all the way to the end of the rating period. Thanks for your service and your support. A key component of the current evaluation system is that rated Soldiers get to actually see and review their evaluation prior to its placement in the OMPF. United States Military Academy NCO NCO E-5 a A mandatory code 10 Extended Annual report will be prepared when any nonrated A a mandatory code 10 extended annual report will be School United States Military Academy Course Title NCO E-5 Type Notes Uploaded By DoctorUniverse2189 Pages 139 Ratings 100% (5) Also, by signing your NCOER, you agree to the admin part. Bullets going over 2 lines. is FAIR or POOR (do not promote, a 4 or 5). The FROM date of the period covered on the Extended, Annual report will be the day after the THRU date of the last OER or NCOER. There are two problems here. Change of Rater: prepared when the soldier has a change of rater, provided there are at least 3 rated months involved. xTKSQ?v45diE 373 0 obj<>stream Incorrect SSN for rated Soldiers. SFC (Join to see) the guidance about this issue came out in an ALARC message. PEB and Disability Evaluation System Overview, Physical Evaluation Board System Overview. I am currently getting revaluated with the VA and I am half way through the evaluation and I have a 90% rating I have like 10-15 more appointments with them. Use of PCS for NCOER is not allowed (although in the form drop down menu). For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Getting ready to PCS, my Rater says my thru date is the report date from my orders. name of rater (last, first, mi) a2. Their NCOER dont annotate the word PROFILE but should reflect either PASS, FAIL, or be left blank for no APFT, depending on their status with that alternate APFT. ETS Retirement. My battalion commander gave him 24 hours to change the report. Change of rater should be used. Problems in the APFT or HT/WT area. HfZ9FGU#lH#?vCBCAF^ECA}=B9~EqE #+Z]V#}a+Pyi Is it compulsory for a Soldier who is retiring in the next 8 months to have NCOER even though it seems to be hurting the Soldier and he/she does not want any? m Am I missing something or is my rater wrong and needs to change my thru date? 365 0 obj <> endobj Extended annuals with more than 12 months in the month block and/or no nonrated codes. You must log in or register to reply here. The rating period begins the day the, Soldier is assigned under an established rating chain (for example, the day a Soldier arrives at a new unit or the day the, Soldier assumes their new duty position). )*I9r#78 s&;va*fLU8o;q@"8|p@0V_UgrL]dog-)s1*w o5DsNYf~BMJBM25uojHV$;PSwj"|k/swPFi What can I do as the commander. I had major trying to shove one down my throat. i. reason for submission : j. period covered k. rated months . My chain of command frequently puts out information after 2000 hours is there anything I can do to get them to do it during formation or a reasonable hour? 49,=VNp!>-LF3j9M-0X#Z)Q%Ofd*nNX k\A,1Z5SU6[Ypq3zPA1@m None of these are acceptable in most situations. I am waiting on orders to clear and get out. (See paras 3-30, 4-12, and 5-11 of AR 623-205 for exceptions.) my question. %%EOF There needs to be an explanation and if needed the lack of CAC can work but Soldiers have the option of ink-signing and this option should be used when needed. reports (for example, Annual, Change of Rater, SROption, Complete the Record, and Relief for Cause). Extended annuals with more than 12 months in the month block and/or no nonrated codes. 616 0 obj <>stream if I have unrated time does that hurt my retirement. I have 18.5 years right now and every eval is exceptional. physically I also have some head issues too. The DA Form 2166-8 also provides evaluation information to ensure that sound personnel management decisions can be made and that an NCO's potential can be fully developed. The THRU date will be determined by the, rated Soldiers circumstances. hTPN0SK4l\tYvB%,MO=V. Submit your question and AskTOP! I just cant physically do anything. 0000002347 00000 n A-Awol B-Break in active enlisted service of 12 months or less The THRU date will be, 12 rated months (365 rated days) after the arrival or assignment date while performing the same duties under the same, rating officials during this rating period. Ron Hite. Extended months can be any amount between 3 and 12 but no more. That last element will change in the next regulation release but for now still stands. 30 day requirement can be waived under certain circumstances. weird right? Raters use the DA Form 2166-8 (NCOER) to provide DA with performance and potential assessments of each rated NCO. There's not enough peer input. It states that once you arrive to your new unit, you would traditionally get an extended annual to take in account for your transition leave. %M,Eq\"y|n.ahT 6KZdvd^c]rS4$-!Kz,)f2'%l7>gDMpvZ$7n{@7u'NY?j6W,_'!G}KQ`ao0zzMbG;5- G;/6rrj{0c[TLp,437@l$/6>? Bullets going over 2 lines. arrival or assignment date while performing the same duties under the same rating officials during this rating period. Information on AskTOP is categorized into a number of subject areas for convenient browsing. 516 0 obj <> endobj Jg-raAqn6({! It may not display this or other websites correctly. there was a pandemic and I am trying to be medboarded can I request unrated time? We are making strides everyday to update our website and will continue to do so. Mark is a Retired Command Sergeant Major with 26 years of military leadership experience. Reviewer is a SFC, 1SG, or MSG or MSG (P) not filling CSM/SGM position (see AR 623-3, para 2-8b). Amazingly many evaluations arent reviewed for a correct Rated Soldier SSN. Standard reason-for-submission codes (for example, code 03, "Change of Rater," or code 04, "Change of Duty," and so forth)will apply on these "Extended" reports that end before the required 12 rated months (365 rated days), even though the "period covered" on the OER or NCOER may exceed 1 calendar year. 0000002424 00000 n trailer ; /[U-,G!Sa 9pgJoe0>&i,^(\k Zci\gIeeY#5y9j 9uedRhNW'd:3A>27 Can't find yours or want to contribute. Wrong reason code. I was in a motorcycle accident and my chain of command directed that I perform over 100 hours of riding mentorship before I can use my cycle again by myself. I am going through the Medical board process and I'm almost complete. I figure if this takes as long as everyone else (12 individuals) then I can jsut give up and retire in aug 2021. now there is an actual medical NCO in this one unfortunately the commander died in a plan crash so now they finally got a replacement. 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I am waiting on orders to clear and get out. %%EOF The Board ID Code is associated with the SSNs of the promotion-eligible personnel. The NCO Corps deserves a lot better. It states that once you arrive to your new unit, you would traditionally get an extended annual to take in account for your transition leave. Each Soldiers situation must be considered individually, just as each evaluation report. Ncoer manual submission . He held 3 military occupational specialties (Field Artillery, Nuclear Weapons Tech, and Ammunition Ordnance). I was a 1SG for a while and stayed on until I could find a replacement because we had no senior NCOES that were not deployed or deploying. I commonly will take 28 or 29 just because of processing time through the unit, so I don't have an NCOER with an "E" code. <<79B0718CA575E44C8CDF5F03974A70F3>]>> Will this missing NCOER cause a problem with applying for either? endstream endobj startxref Directed Reports: requested from the Department of the Army. Save 5% off your first order with the Coupon Code ASKTOP05. What can I do if my NCOER is 75 days past its thru date? H\n@{b/ n EarNJd vo|wnvihqvox&St}.\5\16?YUG:y{)>fS_qm6TK=~Cw)7}X4Coc/1Vq[l7]OYU`jR.dKyC3__uyLa,9 +"tz8=Ne"0 4{6Mh6Mh6Mh6Mh6Mh=P Go to our comment section on the right sidebar. HVN0#Nq8fY !lV=@]JIZu Start: Jun 29, 2022 Get Offer Offer Z10b?sxn$zc=}aF|5q?6g#pNyJA>(k54#j$o " 0 Many of these reports will arrive reflecting for the APFT PASS and no date. h. uic code . %%EOF Bullets not spaced with a blank space/line. ;q 0000000476 00000 n That should also be a change of rater. Special Reports: for circumstances of outstanding or poor performance as long as there are 30 days accounted for and the report is approved by a field grade officer. You will need a Change of Duty evaluation report to close out your military service. (1) confusion about extended annuals and (2) non use of the nonrated code wizard in the form. Table 3-6: Codes and reasons for submission, page 48 Table 3-7: Reason codes for non-rated time, page 48 Table 3-8: Command codes within NCOERS, page 48 DA PAM 623-3 13 August 2007 iii. The FROM, date for these OERs or NCOERs will be the day after the THRU date of the previously completed OER or NCOER, with the rating period beginning the day the Soldier is assigned under an established rating chain (for example, the day, a Soldier arrives at a new unit or the day the Soldier assumes his or her new duty position). everyone involved now is very positive and they are moving it forward I just need to know about the Non rated time and how it relates to retirement. date There are 8 Codes and reasons for an NCOER submission, can you name at least 4? You are using an out of date browser. they keep asking me why im still in or if I'm ok. 0000002615 00000 n I said these because due to CONVID 19, the organization did not have much to do.Soldier has been moved from a team to brigade to act as secretary to the brigade commander office pending on the civilian hiring position. 0000000016 00000 n Seven Types of NCOERs Initial: prepared for a NCO with 3 rated months after promotion to SGT/E-5. It will be followed successively by other types of. m. no of enclosures n. rated nco's email address (.gov or .mil) from (yyyymmdd) thru (yyyymmdd) part ii - authentication . What action is taken when a Soldier marks disagree and provides a rebuttal statement? 5OJ QJ ^J h8 DAPAM 623-3 provides a listing of the box check interpretations. I am waiting for the TBI one I guess. REASON FOR SUBMISSION n. Your thru date should be the date you sign out. Is it true when a new leader takes over I get a fresh start and my previous counselings no longer matter? hb```g ea80yQF `>bFf 1s"s's y2U330T/fa`m2fr30v@U " signatures (legally by regulation) but probably more than need to. FULLY CAPABLE (or promote) and the senior rater potential box check (Part VII.d.) H\@E~y0 tW9 11$>f %Y?}dIC"vO&'sCm![lnMz!k)>N9>\8W&St~4[s&. submitted for.  T i m e s N e w R o m a n 1 . Are you supposed to receive quarterly counselings prior to your NCOER? When another type of report with an extended period covered is prepared, the standard reason code and reason for, submission will be used (see DA Pam 6233). rater's signature a4. No report is submitted when organizational changes merely alter the rated Soldiers principal duty title butdo not change the type of work performed (for example, personnel management staff officer to Assistant G1). minus nonrated time) will be no more than 12 months (365 rated days). Ncoer Reason For Submission Codes Codes and reasons for an NCOER submission named them. endstream endobj 607 0 obj <> endobj 608 0 obj <> endobj 609 0 obj <>stream FULLY CAPABLE (or promote) and the senior, Amazingly many evaluations arent reviewed for a correct Rated Soldier SSN. &NI?q:\`1vINhCpiWI4zI5nuz^asRF"oqZ@jCobn'A*1~KM;+-Yil}o)+9C9X~v^QDB.q)AGvB @jT/(Cs4>mm#4z9z There is no required length or type of nonrated time between the THRU date of the last OER or NCOER and the, establishment of a new rating relationship in order to render an Extended Annual report. AR 623-205 is obsolete. No bullets on front side, not all sections with at least one bullet. 0000001495 00000 n As it was said before, your thru date will be the day you sign out of leave, or the last day you worked for your rater. It appears that units are using this when Soldiers REFRAD or ETS. AR 670-1 prescribes uniform and grooming standards for Army personnel. endstream endobj 520 0 obj <>stream OJ QJ ^J hq1V h8 The THRU date will include 90 rated, days (120 rated days for USAR TPU, DIMA, or drilling IRR Soldiers or ARNG Soldiers). If I receive quarters for 24 hours when am I required to report to work? E-YA'L6m;)!*t\. + Correct, but you only receive a nonrated code for leave if it is 30 or more days. I have 18.5 years right now and every eval is exceptional. From what Im tracking you typically have to have an NCOER complete to clear your unit, but I cant sign it until 14 days prior (halfway through PCS leave) to my thru date. The intent of this type of report is to give a rated Soldier an evaluation similar to an Annual containing 12 rated months after. The standards outlined in AR 670-1 change over time to reflect changing . l. nonrated codes . 0 Also, as the regulation stands right now there should be at least 21 months of physical time between FROM and THRU dates to qualify for an extended annual. I have never heard of the -205 before, so I will give it a look over tomorrow. . Question/situation: I am going through the Medical board process and I'm almost complete. All materials contained on this site are protected by United States copyright law and may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, displayed, published, broadcast, or in any way exploited without the prior written permission of Mentor Enterprises, Inc. or in the case of third party materials, the owner of that content. AR 623-3 is current. endstream endobj 524 0 obj <>stream Gents, on my current ncoer I will have two months of nonrated time due to transit and nonqualified rater (new transfer to the unit rear det, then caught up with the forward element down range). Are you looking for an unbiased outside opinion? How should I determine the thru date on my NCOER for an overseas PCS? hbbd``b`$f7 D] V!`} "RK bMA/@`1H~4b``D" As for the non-rated codes, that would come from your next unit. That meant either no one checked prior to signature or submission or the PROFILE date was more than 12 months prior to the evaluation THRU date and the form would not let the date be entered. Also, for profiles the rater is supposed to comment on whether or not the profile hinders the Rated Soldiers ability to do his/her job. Page 48, table 3-6/7, Codes and Reasons for submission/Reason Codes for non-rated time The THRU date will be 12 rated months (365 rated days) after the. a1. Missing rated Soldier signatures without any explanation or with an explanation that the CAC doesnt work. I have no other gaps during my NCO time. Missing rated Soldier signatures without any explanation or with an explanation that the CAC doesnt work. N o r m a l CJ _HaJ mH sH tH D A` D D e f a u l t P a r a g r a p h F o n t R i R T a b l e N o r m a l 4 I just need to know about the NCOER thing and if the medboard process takes to long can I just get out. I have refused to get vaccinated for religious reasons. 0000001411 00000 n I should just get out. PMOSC - Enter up to nine digits of the primary MOS code (i.e. Figure 31 contains example of timelines to show when an Extended report is, (1) All schooling periods, whether or not the Soldier receives an AER, will be accounted for as nonrated time on. (NCOER Counseling and Support Form) with DA Form 2166-9-1A (NCO Evaluation Report Support Form), mandated for use by A code 04, "Change of Duty" report, is mandatory when a rated Soldier is reassigned to a different principal duty while still serving under the same rater or when he or she is separated from Army service. The pandemic didn't help things. 2) Change of Rater. Missing counseling dates without an explanation by the senior rater. HVrF+|"&q*XY%rs`PTJ$ROS.lM=KHV (0IF [!@%Lou1RpLd]%Ox@jR}b&I9)YAhSf.&=030zJ!%e~t~t~}+`t5s"d&(70S%)b`QD(6@eKO\fwShN\7EPuhM@qO :vf q4D`0AjlM | K/mN>c9:0=&J5g|b;9r~VX9 Annual: prepared 12 months after the last issued NCOER. her NCOER (and the NCOER cannot be forwarded to him or her to sign), unable to sign the NCOER digitally or manually, or refuses to sign the NCOER for any reason, the senior rater will either resolve the problem or explain the reason for the lack of a signature. I have been trying to get a med board for a while. I'm on a dead man profile its all related to my EID blast in Iraq. Bye the way my battalion commander made 3 Star. This occurs when the rater marks in VII.a. 5\5\ & & & & & & & O O O & & O O O O & A8wK O  0 O : : O : O 0 O 3 : > : Seven Types of NCOERs Initial: prepared for a NCO with 3 rated months after promotion to SGT/E-5.